The National Right to Carry Act, a piece of legislation that would enable those with concealed carry permit in any state to carry in every other state that issues concealed carry permits, has passed the House of Representatives with flying colors. The final vote was almost 2:1 in favor of the bill, mostly along party lines with Republicans in favor of passage. Heck, even one of the representatives from Illinois rose in support of the bill, stating that he wanted the passage of the bill to send a message to the governor of his state that concealed carry needs to be enacted in that state, just like it has been in the other 49 states in the Union. The debate was fascinating to watch . . .
Republicans were calm, cool and collected in their support of the bill while Democrats came off as rambling old coots who didn’t really understand the issues involved. It was like the Nixon / JFK debate all over again.
But there was one belle of the ball. Rep. Trey Gowdy, in my opinion, takes the cake for the title of “best speaker” in this debate.
In the closing arguments of the debate he opened his remarks with a reading of the second amendment and went on to illustrate in an impassioned statement how the second amendment is treated as a “second class citizen” instead of with the same regard as the first and other amendments. His speech ended with wild applause from the Republicans in congress, which was well deserved.
Rep. Bill Pascrell, on the other hand, was the obvious loser. He opted to use the opinion of MAIG and his own position as a representative of New Jersey to talk down to the rest of Congress like a grumpy old man trying to shoo those damned kids off his lawn.
Watching the debate was like watching the typical stereotypes of Democrats come to life. It seemed like every Democrat believed law abiding citizens with concealed carry permits were no better than common criminals, and didn’t believe that the second amendment ranked on par with the sanctified first amendment.
It made me glad I moved to Virginia, and confirmed my resolve to never ever move back to New York.
The bill still has to pass the Senate (which has a Democratic majority) and be signed by the President before it becomes law, but this is the closest the measure has ever been to becoming a reality.
Anybody know when will this go to congress?
It just was passed in the Congress. I assume it will go to the Senate in a few days. (I don’t know how that process works.)
People have rights, states don’t. States have powers, and they only have those powers not prohibited them by the constitution. One power they were prohibited is the infringement of our (the people) right to keep and bear arms. Let’s stop making the same mistake many of our unfortunately uninformed law makers are making. This can’t be a states rights issue because states rights DON’T EXIST.
From “The Articles of Confederation,” Agreed to by Congress November 15, 1777; ratified and in force, March 1, 1781:”Article II. Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every Power, Jurisdiction, and RIGHT, which is not by this confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled.”
Question: Did ratification of the US Constitution of 1787 and adoption of the Bill of Rights in 1789 extirpate the rights of the several states?
Or phrased differently, does the US Constitution create a Unitary State instead of a union of states?If the states ceded all their rights to a unitary government, how did the people retain their own “sovereignty, freedom, and independence,” and “power, jurisdiction, and right” after the ratification of 1787?
Does the BOR recover the people’s rights lost in 1787 or merely enumerate rights that are already implied in the US Constitution?
If the BOR is meant to reconvey lost rights, do the states recover rights lost in 1787 by insertion of the 10th Amendment?
Exactly, because government and systems of rule are arbitrary constructs defined and agreed upon by collections of individuals… not magical or mystical decrees that are commanded from on high and are forever absolute. Without the individual none of it exists, none of it has any power.
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This will never pass the Senate. It will call the Democrats out on gun control.
This is wonderful and I hope it becomes law. Gun owners across the land are smiling.
I hope it passes the Senate so we can see what the weak-ass president will do with it.
it may be because thr dems think they would be exterminated………..(in reply to tom above)
I am glad that the house pass this long over due legislation. I pray that the US Senate has the courage to pass it through. It is a law that needed to be in place many years ago. I have been a long time law enforcement officer and see no need to restrict law abiding citizens rights to self defence when they travel across state lines. The arguments given are all very shallow and make no sence. In my 23 years working the streets as a police officer the criminals always have guns and the honest people need the rights to protect themselves when they travel for work such as truckers, sales people and families who vacation. Hope this time it is not blocked by the same people in the Senate.
The Founders delivered us this free Country! The were smart enough to do that. Does the left wing communist faction think that they were stupid enough as to be REDUNDANT? Two words… Keep, and Bear. One means to possess, with possess as defined as to own by the Oxford Dictionary. Bear is defined first as to carry. Both definitions listed in the Oxford Dictionary. Does not the English Language and its words have specific meanings? Or, is the left wing just to stupid to understand English. Perhaps Russian… OR maybe CHINESE might be better understood by the left wing anti-gun faction in this country. Maybe some of them(Left Wingers) might find some of the sticks and stones(Relics) the Revolutionary Guard/Minute Men used to fight off the British back in the 1780′s so we could include them in a museum. Oh… No… Wait… they used guns. Stupid me!
Article lV protects the “Privileges and Immunities of citizens in the several states” the Privileges and Immunities clause; States have no rights to deny Privileges and Immunities granted by other states. Concealed carry is a ‘privilege’ granted by your state, right?
Section 5 of the Fourteenth Amendment, gives Congress the power to enforce the provisions of that amendment.
The Supreme Court held in McDonald v. Chicago that the 14th Amendment protects the right to keep and bear arms against state infringment.
Congress has the power to regulate commerce which includes the power to remove state barriers to free interstate travel.
Article lV, Sec. 1 of the Constitution reads: “Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records and judicial proceedings of every other state. And Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.”
This is why you do not need 50 drivers licenses-
If the Senate blocks this carry bill we will know they refuse to listen to the will of the people, that will be the end of all their political corruption come election time!
All the Commucrats that have been yelling for National Gun Registration for years are all suddenly ‘born again’ states rights advocates in the aftermath of H.R.822, kinda funny aint it boys….
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The wimps in the Senate will never pass this. Lets try again next year when we win the Presidency, the House and Senate. GOD BLESS AMERICA !
Don’t forget “Get out and VOTE”.
Does anyone know when this bill will go to the US Senate? Not sure if I should spend the money for an out-of-state licence to extend the states I can carry in. Also Its about time. the way I look the CCW licence is, If you live in Ohio you shouldn’t have to get a licence in Kentucky to drive in that state too. Let’s hope this will pass quickly so we a country can be on the same page across the nation.
This bill is just a stepping stone. How will it deal with the differences in state restrictions? “I didn’t know!!! It’s different in my state!!!” isn’t going to fly when they’re arresting you. They will have to have an official source for each state’s restrictions in one place. If they’re going to go this far requiring a permit it needs to be a national permit with limited national restrictions.
Let’s be careful what we are asking for. A national reciprocity law puts Gun control at a federal level and diminishes States abilities to negotiate, or defend their gun laws. I think there is a power grab that many in government are waiting to jump on as soon as something like this is passed. Think EPA… Sounded good at the beginning but look at it now. And with the current president’s lack of concern for the rule of law and his tendancy to appoint radial departmental Czars, can we risk the Feds having this control??? Just a fearful thought that passed through my untrusting (of government) mind.
Has anyone heard when of if this will be heard in Congress?