Here We Go Again: Arizona Gun Rampages

From the “Just when you thought it was safe to put Arizona out of your mind re: mass murders” file comes this news item, courtesy of Reuters:

A man apparently angry over a divorce case went on a shooting spree in Yuma, Arizona, on Thursday, killing five people and wounding another before taking his own life, the mayor said.

One of the dead was identified as an attorney who was shot at his Yuma law office, and some of the other victims were friends and relatives of the gunman, Mayor Alan Krieger told Reuters by telephone.

As these things go, early details are sketchy at best (meaning just about everything we ‘know’ now could prove to be wrong later). Apparently, this was a movable feast of fear, starting in downtown Yuma around 9AM, and lasting a couple of hours, across the city.

Carey Hal Dyess, 73, of Yuma killed one person in Yuma and three people in Yuma County before shooting himself, according to a press release from the Yuma Police Department. Dyess’ body was found near Blaisdell and Highway 95 at 11:30 a.m. by Yuma County Sheriff’s deputies, dead from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Krieger said the gunman’s motive was not entirely clear but that he was believed to be upset over a divorce case.

Well, DUH. Let’s see – we’ll call this “recipe for disaster” – mix one irate ex-husband who’s presumably taking a beating from his ex in court, add in an attorney that is either “just doing his job” (from the wife’s POV) or “screwing me over royally (from the husband’s) add in a temper and some control issues (we don’t know, but sounds like this might could be one of the causes for the divorce, no?) and add in a gun. Voilá! Serves six.

I don’t mean to make light of this tragedy, but if someone’s gonna go all Falling Down on the populace, I wish they’d take the Aggie way out and start with themselves. Think of the savings if we could take the “murder” out of “murder-suicide.”

The authorities locked down city hall, the courthouse, and a couple of nearby elementary schools. That’s swell, and I presume it’s a prudent thing to do. (Not my place to say.) But isn’t it kinda like locking the barn door after the horses have gotten loose? I’ll be interested to learn, as the details become available, how this guy could apparently go around systematically taking out an attorney, his relatives and friends, and then himself, without running into any resistance by the police. I’m NOT saying the police did anything wrong – or failed to protect the public as best they can. I’d just like to hear the details and find out how it went down.

For those of you wondering what the takeaway is on this, I’ve got a couple of early results:

  • Sometimes bad things happen to good people.
  • Life can be senseless, sometimes.
  • In order for the majority of us to have the right and the means to defend ourselves, sometimes there can be collateral damages. That this can happen is the price we pay for being able to exercise our second amendment rights.
  • The left is gonna go nuts over this, and try to use this tragedy (again) to argue for more restrictive gun laws.
  • Just because Arizona has liberal gun laws doesn’t mean everybody walks around packin’ heat. If they did, it’s far more likely this idiot would have been stopped before he stopped himself.
  • For those that point up the mental illness angle, how do you propose that we effectively screen anybody and know, in advance, that they are likely to commit a gun crime?

That’s all we’ve got so far. More details as we get ’em.

comments

  1. avatar John Fritz says:

    I remember sitting in court years ago trying to comfort a good friend while his ex-wife was doing everything she could to damage him and take his only child away from him. He turned and whispered to me at one point “I understand now how married couples could kill each other”.

    Who knows what hell this guy in Arizona had gone through.

  2. avatar Kevin says:

    They called Sheriff Dupnik, and he said he would put his best men on it. Just as soon as they have gathered all the facts. Maybe next week.

  3. avatar Federale says:

    Perhaps an objective lesson to ex-wives and ambulance chasing attorneys. What goes around…

    1. avatar RAN says:

      Not so quick Federale, let’s wait and see the reason for the divorce. What if this guy was a wife beating jerk? Unless you mean that ex-wives should know to pack heat if they have ex’s with anger management issues.

  4. avatar JOE MATAFOME says:

    Your right on target with every point you made, and no matter what laws are passed something like this can’t be stopped. If someone wants to get you, there’s not much if anything you can do to stop them.

    1. avatar ExurbanKevin says:

      there’s not much if anything you can do to stop them.

      We’re not going to get into the whole “stopping power” debate again, are we? 😉

      1. avatar Derek says:

        I’m game 🙂 10mm Auto FTW!!! lol

    2. avatar RAN says:

      Unless you follow Marines Rules of Gunfighting from Fallujah – “Have a plan to kill everyone you meet.”
      http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/2008/01/a-plan-to-kill.php

  5. avatar ExurbanKevin says:

    My thoughts and prayers go out to the people who are affected by this “man”. As much as we need to brace ourselves for the inevitable “BAN GUNS AND SHOOT THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THEM” cries from the gentle, peace-loving anti-gunners out there, it’s important to remember that real people are hurt in this sort of this. Both our passion for our freedoms and our compassion for the victims need to come out in cases like this.

    1. avatar Keith says:

      Amen.

      Makes me angry and sad. Everyone lost today.

      1. avatar John Fritz says:

        … Everyone lost today.

        Indeed.

  6. avatar Res Publica Americana says:

    How much do you guys think statists are going to milk this?

  7. avatar Javier E says:

    “■For those that point up the mental illness angle, how do you propose that we effectively screen anybody and know, in advance, that they are likely to commit a gun crime?”
    Minority Report anyone? That’s like predicting the future if we could these kind of things would not happen. What if ………….. what if my uncle wore a dress? He’d be my aunt. The actions of one person does not make all of humanity the same. That’s not how those who want the guns banned will see it though.

    1. avatar Brad Kozak says:

      EXACTLY. In case anyone missed my use of a rhetorical device, there is no way to accurately predict anyone’s behavior such that you could stop them from committing an act of violence, without trampling on everyone’s civil rights. It just is not possible. Not even in the movies, if you watched Minority Report.

  8. avatar Brian N. says:

    As an attorney, a divorce attorney – yep. I can see it. Each side will feel they are getting a good “screwing”, which is why I carry. Not at court of course, as that is not allowed. I will say, you CAN predict the probability: I have left the court at times “condition red” myself.

    No need to restrict the right to carry though. This is a reason to encourage it.

  9. avatar Chris Matthews says:

    Ron Paul drinks the blood of Democratic children as they sleep, guns are the spawn of Mephistopheles, and those seemingly unidentifiable sensations traveling through my extremities told me a national Assault Machine Pistol and Gun Street Sweeper Annihilator Destroyer Firearm Termination Evisceration Device Evil Hellspawn Act, or an AMPGSSADFTEDEH, is in order!

    1. avatar Jordan says:

      lol

  10. avatar JP says:

    Here’s the url to the story on an NBC affiliate: http://www.kare11.com/news/article/925394/18/5-dead-in-Arizona-shooting

    Apparently this was the guys 5th divorce, and she had a restraining order against him citing domestic violence.

    At the risk of sounding jaded, I’m just hoping that he used a 5ft muzzle-loader at this point. But I won’t hold my breath.

  11. avatar Bob H says:

    Even a day and a half later they are not talking about the weapon. If it were were an EBG we would have heard by now. I am beginning to think that it may be a 5 shot revolver like that nutcase in Brazil used to shoot what? 60 people?

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