The 1911 is the dictionary definition of “been there shot that.” Especially now, during the centennial celebrations marking its debut. You could equip an Army unit with all the variants clamoring for a modern gun buyer’s attention, none of which is particularly noteworthy in terms of its mechanical innovation. But familiarity with John Moses Browning’s design does not breed contempt. And some gunmakers have viewed the 1911′s resurgence as a challenge: to improve on a classic without losing its fundamental strengths. To wit: Smith & Wesson’s new “E-Series” 1911′s . . .
Smith & Wesson are in the process of revamping their line of 1911′s. Peering into this year’s catalog you’ll notice they’ve dropped some models from their product line, and added a few new guns. We recently got our hands on one such newbie: the bobtailed E-series Sc carry gun.
When you first spy the blue plastic clamshell box with the S&W logo, you can hear the hum-drum beating. Open the case, and angels start singing that bit from the Stone’s You Can’t Always Get What You Want. Got wood? Oh yeah, they got wood. Faux or no, the beautifully grained handles on the 30ish different SW1911Sc’s I encountered were to have and to hold, from that day forth, for ever and ever, amen.
Smith ships the Sc with one flush-fit seven-round magazine and one eight-round magazine with a bump pad. The SW1911SC’s serial numbers all start with “UCK”—indicating the need for regular cleaning. It’s a good thing that tool-less disassembly is fast and easy.
The SW1911Sc’s a Scandium alloy-framed black anodized finish bobtailed 1911. It’s designed to compete with the rest of the Commander length (4.25″ bbl) 1911′s. The two-tone model sports a stainless steel slide, bringing the gun’s unloaded weight to 29.6 ozs. The sister pistol’s steel slide is Melonite treated, weighing in at 29.7 oz. At 7.95″ snout to tail, the SW1911Sc’s an easy choice for concealed carry.
Smith blessed the SW1911Sc with a titanium firing pin. In so doing, they’ve dropped the Series 80 style firing-pin block common on many modern 1911 variants. The weight of the Sc’s titanium firing pin is insignificant enough that the firing pin will not acquire enough kinetic energy to impart the requisite pressure on a pistol primer to cause detonation in a direct-drop from three feet. If Smith gives TTAG a destruction model, we’ll throw it against the wall and see what happens . . .
Smith have added an over-sized extractor to the new E-series guns, as well as their combat-style ejection port. I watched over a dozen shooters fire hundreds of rounds per gun, including a shooter who had never before fired a handgun as, uh, finicky as the 1911. I didn’t see a single FTE (Failure to Extract).
Stealing a trick from their Performance Center pistols, the new E-series wears a recessed muzzle. It’s like Palladium cufflinks complementing a fine imported suit: the final touch that brings it all together. Functionally unimportant, yet aesthetically pleasing. So, Mr. Bond. You look good (and please don’t take that the wrong way). But do you shoot well? Short version – yes. Long version – keep reading.
The SW1911Sc’s precision-fit trigger [as above] makes a huge difference to the pistol’s perceived performance. The Sc’s trigger has very little slack, a clean and crisp pull, and a break that’s easier than hitting the snooze button on your alarm clock. The gun’s reset is solid, yet subtle. For shooters with not-so-giant paws, Smith & Wesson have cut a small relief just below the trigger guard, allowing meaty fingers that extra little bit of space with which to work. Nice touch.
Smith’s upmarket 1911 wears Trijicon Tritium front and rear, with enough glow-in-the-dark brightness to worry the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. The gun’s also got an ambidextrous safety. Like most 1911 ambi-safeties, there’s a little bit of “play” in the extractor-side lever. Not unexpected, but enough to elicit knowing nods from the 1911 cognoscenti. Who might also debate the wisdom of a 1911 lacking” slide rattle” (some view extremely tight tolerances as a reliability issue). The 1911Sc’s slide is as well-fitted as a new jar lid and smooth with it.
The 1911Sc’s 17 lines per inch front-strap checkering and aggressive back strap striations foster a solid hold, even with sweaty hands. A dozen grooves grace the top of the slide between the front and rear sights, cutting down on glare and reflected light. Much appreciated when trying to take aim at high-noon in the Arizona desert. The same style grooves cover the whole of the rear of the slide.
Along the slide’s length, Smith & Wesson have milled “fish scale scalloped slide serrations.” That’s a direct quote from Dr. Seuss. Sorry, a seafood-obsessed firearms designer. I mean, straight from Smith & Wesson’s Marketing Director. A little tongue-twisty, but they get the job done.
In the video above, I run the SW1911Sc through the Funhouse at Gunsite. The pistol performed flawlessly. All my rounds landed center mass—save the headshot. Take particular note (immediately following my non-tactical and downright ugly reload in the previous video) at the lack of muzzle-flip. With a proper hold and push-pull, the Sc’s muzzle-flip is no more of a bother than it is on a full-size 1911. Compared to the 5″ 1911 I typically carry, the SW1911Sc’s muzzle-flip and second round follow-ups were just as easily managed.
As with most any modern firearm, the SW1911Sc’s more accurate than all but the best shooters. At 15 yards standing, emptying the magazine at a regular rate of fire, I could create a respectable grouping within the nine-ring or better. The target above displays nine rounds, with two sets of the three producing one-inch, and one and one tenth inch groups. Missing the bull low and left is indicative of trigger control imperfection. Producing a group the size of a softball at 15 yards is more than respectable. Imagine what this sucker will do on the bench.
Thus far, it’s eaten most everything that’s thrown at it (note the one ammo issue below): Winchester White Box 230Grn FMJ, Federal 230Grn FMJ, Remington UMC 230Grn FMJ, PMC 230Grn FMJ, Speer Lawman 230Grn FMJ, and Blazer 230Grn FMJ with not a single issue. In terms of defensive and carry ammunition, I fed the SW1911Sc both Winchester Ranger SXT 230Grn HP, and Federal Hydra-Shok 230Grn JHP. All shot and cycled cleanly. I’ve experienced one Failure to Fire (FTF), using Remington Disintegrator 155Grn Copper / Tin Frangible ammunition.
Smith & Wesson have been in the 1911 game for just under a decade. They’ve proven that they can manufacture a Joe-average JMB that appeals to the masses. At the same time, their Performance Center products have demonstrated a clear ability to produce high quality custom pieces. With the E-Series, Smith split the difference. The attractive, accurate and reliable E-series 1911Sc easily runs with its grand-in-the-hand competitors. Brands snobs need not apply, but quality-minded 1911 buyers need to add the SW1911Sc to their shopping list.
SPECIFICATIONS
Caliber: .45ACP
Action: Single-Action Only
Capacity: 8+1 with bump-pad, 7+1 with flush magazine.
Overall Length: 7.95″
Barrel Length: 4.25″
Weight: 29.6 Oz. (Two-tone). 29.7 Oz. (Black).
Sights: Trijicon Tritium Night Sights Front and Rear
Frame Material: Scandium Alloy.
Slide Material: Stainless Steel
Finish: Two-tone or full Black Melonite Treated
Price: MSRP $1369
RATINGS (out of five)
Style: * * * * *
The small touches that Smith and Wesson have added to John Moses Browning’s 1911 design make this pistol beautiful to (be)hold. The wood on the grips alone is enough to make me want to open-carry.
Ergonomics (Carry): * * * * *
The “round-butt” bobtail makes this an ideal carry gun for those who have opted to carry a 1911. Printing is negligible and shirts stay un-torn when bending over.
Ergonomics (Shooting): * * * * *
The missing .75″ of barrel are hardly noticed when firing the SW1911Sc versus firing a full-sized 1911. the checkering and striations provide an aggressive but comfortable grip. A firm grip aids in reducing muzzle-flip, the 1911Sc performs better than expected in that department.
Reliability: * * * * *
One feeding issue—with Frangible rounds. With daily carry and range ammunition, the pistol hasn’t hiccuped. It eats flat nosers, hollow points, and ball without discriminating. In the Arizona high desert, this pistol functioned the entire week without a takedown.
Customize This: * * * * 1/2
The 1911 has a parts and accessories following with endless variations – many will fit the 1911Sc. Less 1/2 star for lack of grips available at the current time.
Overall Rating: * * * * *
This pistol competes with other bobtailed 1911′s wearing the names Bill Wilson, Kimber, Dan Wesson, and is a welcome addition. Smith have priced this pistol to undercut most every other bobtail commander on the market – what they haven’t cut is quality. The pistol runs like a champ. Another great offering from Smith & Wesson.
Nice review, man! I might have to look into replacing my PoS Springfield with one of these…
Nick:
Well perhaps the difference between your PsS Springfield and the S&W is the $700 difference in price. I love my PoS Springfield. It has never jammed or failed to eject probably because its not so finely machined as the more expense 1911s. Besides I only use standard ball ammunition. At 230 grains why spend the extra money on overkill. The AK-47 is also a mechanical PoS which is why it is so reliable. If you are competitive shooter I can see spending a lot of money but if the primary purpose is a little target shooting or self defense the Springfield is just fine.
My carry gun of choice for a good long time: Springfield Mil-Spec 5″ Stainless with a few personal upgrades. Excellent piece of kit. Straight shooter that never fails.
Take a look at the other bobtails on the market – The S&W 1911Sc is pretty dang competitively priced. It all depends on your requirements!
I carry the same model. +1
Sorry for disturbance, gentlemen, but what are PoS and PsS stands for?
PoS = #2
PsS is a typo
Well, Thank you, but what #2 means?
I doubt that PoS in this context is “piece of shine”.
Let’s not confuse Rudy… #2 could be a pencil.
PoS=”Piece of Sh!t”
They make a good 1911. I had an early 1911PD. The only odd thing was whenever I shot with less than 230 gr rounds, FMJ or JHP, it would shoot lower. With 230 gr, it was dead on all day, every day-and I shot thousands through it. It was one of those trades I wish I’d never done, trading it off. That bobtail looks sweet,there’s nothing like a round butt.
That’s normal, Cujo.
http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-112695.html
Thanks, I thought it was just a phenomenon with .45 ACP. It is all so clear now, seriously. I guess it was just easier to notice with my Smith, because it was so spot on. Now I’ll be curious to visibly see the difference on same grain/+p and standard point of impact-with the new, project .45 I’m playing with.
That makes me wonder too, then, if changing spring strength could not just benefit for operating with certain rounds, but tweak accuracy by changing cycle speed.
It’s a very pretty bit of kit. I can’t wait for the 500th anniversary of the blunderbuss, when all the firearms manufacturers will be selling their optics-ready flintlocks.
+1
I’d like to see the 500th anniversary of the 1911. I’m pretty sure even then someone will think that it is the best.
I would like to see a side-by-side comparison of this S&W 1911 Sc and a Ruger SR 1911.
With the Ruger being 1/2 the price of the S&W, what is the comparative benefit of the S&W over the Ruger?
I looked around the internet and the Ruger was coming in around $200 less.
I think the slide serrations, the front strap checkering, the grooves up top and the bob-tail grip are where the money went.
That’s a beautiful gun, I definitely want one. Thanks for the review.
Charles, if it’s anything like the Smith 1911 PD I had, it is scary accurate with 230 gr rounds. My PD loved the Chip McCormick 8 round Power Mags. The 10-shot Power mags not so much. She would put round after round in the same hole, 230 gr JHP and FMJ.
Yep, a friend of mine has one and it’s a very nice shooter and very well-built. It’s what got me wanting one in the first place.
How big was the hole you were shooting through? Or into?
Ha! It was a ragged .45 hole. Match grade accuracy.
Does it come stock with the Gunsite raven on the slide?
Eric,
No, it does not – not from S&W anyway. The one I’ve been running is a Gunsite edition with the Raven – initial testing was out at Gunsite. If you want the Raven, Gunsite is now stocking the 1911Sc – they may have a few left.
Great review! Nice shooting in the fun house.
I know it’s probably sick, but I’d really love to see a parkerized version. Something about that government issue look…
cujo the reason the lighter bullets shot lower is because they got out the BBL a bit faster than the heaver ones
hard to understand that lighter one travel faster and the gun di not rise as much
Yes, it is an odd thing, isn’t it? The Smith is so dead on with 230 grain rounds that I couldn’t help but notice it-and move all my 185 and 200 grain JHP’s aside for my Glock 30, which didn’t obviously show a difference in precision. The odd thing is that the Glock is still very accurate, just not a tack driver like the Smith.
I have a 1911ES, which has an edged back strap. Wonder if the curved backstrap from an 1911SC would fit my ES?
ultratec00 – Your 1911ES frame is not cut for the bobtailed (they call it “round butt”) mainspring housing, it has a standard officer’s frame and housing. The arched mainspring housing would likely fit your ES (YMMV), but you would have to cut down the frame surrounding the mainspring housing to get the full benefit of the bobtail design (without cutting, the frame would extend past the arched mainspring housing on either side leaving you with two very uncomfortable protrusions from the butt of your pistol).
This modification would involve cutting the frame and moving the mainspring housing pin hole further “up,” as well as cutting down / acquiring new grips.
It is possible though, “standard” 1911′s have been converted to bobtails before – there are jigs and plans available for the DIY’er to give it a go, or there are several competent 1911 gunsmiths who make a living on performing customization of this type. A popular search for “1911 bobtailing” will yield several examples of the process. If you decide to move forward with the modification, TTAG would love to see the before and after, as well as hear about your experience!
Definitely the next gun on my list.
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Just put some rounds through my new e series. Gotta say it was very comfortable and a blast to shoot. Satisfied to the max!
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I just bought one of these SW1911SC models and I love it! I have had an assortment of 1911′s in the past. I currently have a Kimber Ultra CDP as well, and I have to say this new S&W is even prettier than it. It’s so sexy and a real pleasure to hold. I find myself just wanting to caress it over and over while sitting at home watching TV. I cuddle up with it in bed at night, lighting running my fingers over it as I lay next to it. I never want it to be too far away from me, lol. The only other gun that ever turned me on this much, was the German Luger of WW2. My new S&W beauty gives me that same feeling, and like the Luger you can just feel the quality of it, it makes me tingle all over. I am extremely happy with this purchase, and I was able to find it at the incredible price of $1199 at a local outdoors store. As a girl who first learned to shoot at age 12, got her CCW at 21, spend 6 years in the military, and has owned many fabulous firearms over the last decades, I just can’t rave enough about this gun. My toes curl just thinking about it. Ok, I’ll be quiet now, hehe.
S&W makes some mighty fine firearms and the 1911SC E is certainly a very nice piece. Like Softail said, it truly is a pleasure to hold, the bobtail makes a world of difference. It is a bit snappy since it’s Scandium Framed (compared to an all steel Kimber or Springfield) but it shoots wonderful and feels great while doing it. I think the all black looks better than the 2-tone, but settled for the 2-tone since it was available for $1116.00 when I finally found one in a store in Oct. 2011. Still haven’t seen many of these waiting to be purchased; they must go pretty quick when they come in. I’ve run about 400 rounds through mine without a single issue with various brands of FMJ ammo (Fiocchi, Sellier Bellot, Blazer, Federal). I would certainly recommend looking at this, to anyone looking for a bobtail 1911 in a Commander or Pro size. The Kimber Super Carry HD Pro is nice too, but it’s $300 more and weighs 5 ounces more. I prefer Kimber Meprolight sights over the Trijicons. One of the older posts here says SA’s are PoS; personally I never had any trouble with my SA TRP. Yes, it cost $300 more (like the Kimber), but it has never had a hiccup in over 1000 rounds and is like most firearms I own; more accurate than I can be at this age. Then again, touching holes at 7.5 yards is pretty decent I suppose.