Ralph’s Guide to Buying Your First Mosin Nagant 91/30 Pt. 1

The Mosin Nagant 91/30 is a blunderbuss with a bad attitude, a fierce weapon of war from the tip of its pig-sticker bayonet to its skull-cracking iron butt plate. The original 91 was introduced in 1892, improved in 1930, and remained Russia’s top infantry rifle until 1945. Like the Ivans and Ivanettes who carried this beast through seven wars, the Nagant rifle packs a punch. It’s big, robust, heavy, loud, rude, sometimes crude, iron-balls tough, ugly in a beautiful way, cheap, historic and a whole lot of fun if you go easy on the vodka. Whoa. I just kinda described myself if I drop the historic thing and add more vodka . . .

The Russians made more Nagants than they did those annoying matryoshka dolls – those fat-chick dolls that open up and there’s a smaller babushka inside that one and you open that one and there’s a smaller one inside that one and you keep on going and going until you want to grab a sledgehammer and smash every freakin’ one into subatomic Soviet-era sawdust. Yeah, I don’t like them either.

Because Nagants were made by the bazillions and never thrown away, they don’t cost very much now. Prices start at about $75 bucks online and less than twice that in your local store. The online deal looks better, but when you add in the shipping and FFL fees (if you don’t have a C&R License) and the fact that the rifle can’t be checked out beforehand, maybe it’s not.

Nagants are also cheap to run. 440 round spam cans of milsurp ball ammo cost only a few rubles. Modern hunting ammo in 7.62x54R costs a few kopecks more, but still less than hunting rounds in .308 and .30-06. Cheap to buy, cheap to use, what’s wrong with that, comrade?

Every collector, recreational shooter, amateur historian or general firearms enthusiast should own at least one Mosin Nagant 91/30. Anyone who believes that battle rifle technology began and ends with the M-16 can turn away in horror, because this is a guide to buying and tuning your first Mosin Nagant 91/30. There isn’t much to dislike about the Moist Nugget (as it’s affectionately known), but there are a few myths and truths you need to know.

The Good, the Bad and the БЕЗОБРАЗНЫЙ

The Nugget does not have a reputation for great accuracy. Okay, I’m being charitable. The fact is that the standard infantry 91/30 isn’t a sub-MOA thread cutter and never will be. However, as a battle rifle, Nagant accuracy ought not to be measured in MOA, but in MON — Millions of Nazis. It’s the rifle that won the Battle of Stalingrad, which is accurate enough for me.

Westerners have heard that “General Winter” defeated the Wehrmacht. Oh, really? Well, then, exactly who was blowing all those Storm Trooping bastards straight to hell during those sultry summer on the Eastern Front? The Russian winter slowed the Germans up, that’s true, but it was the Nagant that knocked ‘em down — and it didn’t take half a year off to get its wind back.

91/30 construction at the height of WW2 was fast and furious. Wartime models show tool marks and rough stocks and a whole lot of other cosmetic defects that should not affect their function. However, the quality of prewar Nuggets was good to excellent in the Russian way, meaning they were purpose-built for an army of illiterate muzhiks and the guns worked, always.

Every gun was crazy overbuilt so it would withstand constant Arctic combat and kill from either end. Despite what you think you know, Russian metallurgy of the period was on a par with Western Europe’s. Finally, after the war the Russian military stored seventeen hundred million trillion of these rifles (more or less), using up the entire world supply of cosmoline in the process. So, there’s no shortage of Nuggets available – yet — although they are getting more difficult to find.

Next gripe — the Russians used corrosive ammo. Yes, it’s true, and so did every other WW2 army, but if properly maintained the rifles remain battle-worthy until this very day. Ivan had to keep his rifle in good shape because if he didn’t he’d end up on that long lonely roll of dead commies. And I won’t hesitate to remind y’all again that Russian ammo shredded the Wehrmacht more than it did the Nagants, so don’t overthink this issue.

Then there’s the safety. This is a real issue and not a myth. Some people say, charitably, that it blows. Well, yes. Actually, it does. Totally. It’s not unsafe, but for hunting, it’s noisy enough to scare off a hungry mama grizzly and her cubs. Even at the range, it can’t be operated easily by anyone who doesn’t have steel appendages. It’s slow to engage or disengage. Other than those “minor” quibbles, it sucks.

The only good thing that can be said about the Nagant safety is it that it’s unlikely to fail because, unlike a cross-bolt, bolt interlock, trigger disconnect or other Twentieth Century appliance, the Nagant’s Nineteenth Century cocker physically locks the bolt to the high-side of the receiver. It would take a mighty blow to dislodge the safety, but there’s no other good news about this Communist torture device except that it beats being water-boarded.

And then there’s the Nugget’s trigger. I read somewhere that the pull is longer than the Volga. That’s silly, since the Volga is 2,293 miles long and the Nugget’s trigger pull is maybe half that, tops. Besides, a lot of combat triggers have a long and crusty pull – think of the M-16 as one example. The Nagant trigger is as lengthy as the Don and as creepy as a mortuary, but it’s not much worse than a lot of basic triggers.

Anyone who wants a match trigger on a Nagant can get one from Timney or Huber, but I wouldn’t bother. Oh, since a trigger return spring was considered a potential weak spot, the Nagant doesn’t have one and honestly, it’s not necessary. If you insist on having one, a return spring upgrade costs under $10 and it’s an easy install.

Which brings us to the grip, which is as straight as Chuck Norris. The venerated Springfield 1903 had the same grip, which didn’t seem to bother the doughboys when they were tramp-tramp-tramping through Belleau Wood using Hans and Franz for human target practice. It’s also the same grip found on English-style shotguns and didn’t bother Elmer Fudd while Bugs was driving him cwazy. AR-lovers might think I’m cwazy too, but the grip doesn’t bother me at all.

Finally, a few words about cosmoline, the icky crap that puts the Moist in the Moist Nugget. One day, many centuries ago, the devil blew his nose like a flugelhorn and what shot out was cosmoline. Warm cosmo has the tantalizing aroma of freshly-poured road tar on a hot day. It’s gooey and it sticks like baby vomit. It’s darker than the interior of a bat’s colon. It gunks up the works and it’s gotta be removed or it will shut your rifle down and maybe make it unsafe.

I love it, though, because without cosmo, these military relics would have rusted away to Battenberg lace eons ago. It’s not difficult to de-cosmo a rifle, but it’s a time-consuming PITA and can’t be done at the show or store. If you find a Nugget that’s still “in cosmoline,” that’s not a bad thing, but it’s going to make it tough to check the rifle on the spot.

This much I promise: with a bit of time, effort, affection and engine degreaser, this ugly duckling can be turned into a very presentable duckling with no or very light non-Bubba gunsmithing. No, it’s never going to be a swan. On the other hand, a modern tack driver is never going to be an important piece of world history.

Choosing Your First Mosin Nagant 91/30

Let’s begin with the inevitable safety warning: Know and obey the rules of gun safety before you handle any gun, even one that’s older than you and should know better. Keep the muzzle pointed in the proverbial “safe direction” at all times, which as far as I’m concerned means “not at me.” You will need to depress the trigger when you’re examining Nagants, so check and double check to make sure the rifle isn’t loaded and neither are you.

Don’t do any of the following tests with a loaded rifle — if you shoot somebody while you’re flagging the room, that somebody may get pissed off and return the insult with an ever larger and more powerful gun. While it’s true that we should all reduce our carbon footprints, premature death by gunfight would be an extreme way to Save the Planet.

There are Nagants to shoot, and there are Nagants to collect. If you’re looking for wall-hanger, this won’t be the right guide for you. To find a shooter, shop for your Moist Nugget the same way my beloved GF shops for shoes – absolutely freakin’ relentlessly. Whether at a gun shop, gun show or private face-to-face transaction, remember that there are still plenty of Nuggets around if you look for them, so there’s no reason not to buy a nice one. Do your due diligence and you’ll make a lifelong friend.

So you go to the show or store and spy a Nagant beckoning from the rack, or you meet up with Bubba and he shows off his well-used “Roosky” rifle. Whaddaya do?

Assuming the rifle is relatively free of gunk, check the stock. Well, duh. Did you really need me to tell you that? Check for cracks, ugly gouges and Bubba’s classy “improvements.” Minor dings and compressions are to be expected, but if a Nugget doesn’t have sound wood, put it down and say до свидания, кот котенка – that’s “das bidania, kitty cat.” Why bother to repair a damaged stock? Also check the shellac and tenderly run your fingertips over the wood.

If the surfaces are sticky, slimy or just look wrong, the furniture’s been poorly redone. If the shellac is dull, rough or worn away, the furniture needs refinishing. Anyone who enjoys woodworking and is prepared to invest a little time and money to spruce up a stock needn’t be deterred.

On the other hand, if you don’t know Elmer Formby from Elmer Fudd, Elmer Gantry or Elmer the Cow, say до свидания. Some Nagants have been sporterized with synthetic stocks, which is fine for anyone who likes old wine in new bottles. To me, its heresy and whoever does such a thing should be have the Nagant’s eighteen-inch long spike bayonet shoved right up their old Moon River, if you get my thrust.

Nuggets are infamous for “sticky” bolts that are not always evident until the rifle is fired. There are a number of causes of “sticky bolt syndrome.” Cosmoline can harden and coat the chamber like shellac. When the bolt heats up, the cosmo softens and turns to mucilage. There could be a burr in the chamber. There could be a lot of things. Look for a sticky bolt by working it several times. The Nagant’s bolt is far from smooth like a Krag’s, but it should open, slide and close with mild pressure or a “keep-your-hand-out-of-the-cookie-jar-you-little-brat” lovetap.

If the bolt requires persuasion by force, deadly or otherwise, just say до свидания and pass it by. A sticky bolt can be cured, but why choose a rifle that’s already a bigger ball-breaker than Hillary Clinton? Open the bolt and point the barrel straight up without scaring any passing pilots. Give the rifle a little shake or slap, or touch the bolt handle lightly, and the bolt should slide open on its own. Ура!

Function-check the safety. The cocking knob looks inviting, but it’s so close to the stock that there’s no way to grab it properly. Seated or standing, brace the butt on your leg, body or crook of your elbow with the bolt closed. Squeeze the knob between the first two fingers of your strong hand, or your thumb and forefinger (which never works for me).

Now, pull back on the cocking piece, rapidly turning the knob counterclockwise and the rifle clockwise at the same time. With two hands sharing the work, deploying the safety is half as difficult. The bolt should now be locked to the receiver. Pull the trigger and nothing should happen. When you get your rifle home, practice this move until you need orthopedic hand surgery. Ten turns ought to do it, maybe less if you frequently limp-wrist your Wonder Nine.

In our next thrilling episode, we’ll inspect the crown and if you’re not bored we’ll check the bore. We’ll measure the firing pin depth and head spacing. We’ll look at some markings and – cover your noses – remove any remaining cosmoline. I have a tip on the last one that will make y’all heroes to your spouses. In the final chapter, we’ll sight her in, tune her up and blow some shit to smithereens.

I hope that anyone interested in purchasing and spiffing-up their first Moist Nugget will find this series of articles useful and amusing. Comments, suggestions and contributions of a non-financial nature are invited from members of TTAG’s Armed Intelligentsia or anyone else who knows and appreciates the historic Mosin Nagant 91/30.

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[Click here to read Chris Dumm's review of the Mosin Nagant]

67 Responses to Ralph’s Guide to Buying Your First Mosin Nagant 91/30 Pt. 1

  1. avatarChris Dumm says:

    Great article! I think every shooter should consider having a Mosin-Nagant and a tin of surplus ammo, because they’re so affordable and rugged and fun. A Mosin itself is cheaper than a. 22 riflle, and you can shoot it until you’re dazed and deaf for less than $20!

    I can’t wait for the next installment.

    • avatarRalph says:

      Chris, your Mosin article was fantastic and really ramped up my determination to add a Nagant to my collection of historic firearms.

  2. avatarRobert Farago says:

    Don’t forget to click on the link and read Chris’ Mosin Nagant review.

  3. avatarMagoo says:

    Thanks for the fun writeup of a historically fascinating rifle. First rate, Ralph.

  4. I got my first one in January. It was already cleaned of cosmoline, and I got 180 rounds of ammo- out the door for $175. Invested in a “field” headspace gauge from okiegauges.com, and I was good to go.
    Took it out and shot it with the wife and a friend, we all had a blast (no pun intended :).

    A few weeks later, I stopped in at our local Big Five, and found that they had some in stock, so I purchased one, and called my buddy, who turned out to be nearby, and came over and got one for himself. Now his whole family is hot for some Mosin-Nagants. Apparently, I’ve started something around here :)

    • avatarRalph says:

      If Mosinitis is a disease, you’re a carrier!

    • avatarJC says:

      I just took my mosin to the range this past week and what a treat! First time shooting it and it kicks like a mule after 50 rounds on my fragile shoulder. My rifle is made in 1939 and has 1 “X” stamped on it. Before buying this gun you should know that when a solder was killed in battle there stock was stamped with an “X”. Most nagant a you’ll find won’t be stamped because they were made near the end of the war but you can still find the ones used in battle. Also I had a sticky bolt after firing it, this problem can be fixed with proper cleaning of the bolt and the receiver. It helps to keeps pressure against receiver when pulling the bolt CCW after a shot. Also you should buy these bullets for about .32 cents. 800round wooden crates can be bought for $270. But most ammo is corrosive, so after shooting please clean.

      • avatarMosinshooter says:

        I have never heard that the “X” indicates a death. I don’t think the Russians had time to mark rifles that way… they were too busy trying to turn back Germans. Perhaps you are thinking of the boxed “X” on stocks and receivers? That’s just a rebuild mark.

  5. avatarJOE MATAFOME says:

    Awesome job Ralph, but now I have to buy one. Whenever I see a cool looking gun with a “pigsticker” I buy it.

  6. avatarJoe says:

    Bolt actions are cool and all, but my $320, early ’50′s H&R M1 Garand will have to deal with my battle rifle fever for the near future.

  7. avatar2yellowdogs says:

    See, that’s the problem with TTAG. I read something like this and immediately start Jonesing for one. The cool thing about the M-N is, at least it’s cheap to pick one up. Unlike 95% of the other guns I’ve added to my want list because of this damned site.

    • avatarRalph says:

      Get your C&R license and you will save $$$. Some online and local stores will give you Class 01 dealer pricing with an 03 C&R.

  8. avatarSean says:

    My first one actually cost me $10. About 10 years ago, I had a bad experience with a local sporting goods store. I ended up contacting their corporate office. They ended up sending me a $50 gift card. That week, they had a $20 off coupon in the paper. They had Mosins for $79. So I walked in with my coupon, and gift card…and gave them $10 and some change. For an actual gun. I took the gun home and took it apart, and cleaned it. I took the rough stock to work(I worked at a furniture store), and refinished it in the shop…it looked great.

    I went to a gun show the next day, and bought one of those large tins of surplus ammo. Great fun.

    I do regret selling it. Someone offered me $200 for it. I couldn’t turn it down.

    • avatarMark says:

      I got a Stevens 20 gauge for .01. Friend gave me a $100 gift card. Cost after taxes was 100.01. Had to buy ammo because I didn’t have a penny and the store wouldn’t let me run .01 on my debit card… Ugh, kinda ruined the experience.

  9. avatarTravis Leibold says:

    Great Article! Just had my 1939 out on Wed with some really stinky bulgarian copper washed steel ammo.

    Its hilarious that you can buy an actual high-powered, accurate enough, rifle for 75 bucks. hahaha.

    There was a finnish sniper that had over 300 kills with iron sights when the ruskies invaded before WWII.

  10. avatarmiforest says:

    great writeup. you should be doing this for a living.

  11. avatarChris Dumm says:

    I went shooting with some compadres today (doing the last bit of, ah, ‘research’ for an Armalite review) and we met four family groups of shooters at the quarry. Every group we met, save one, brought one or two Mosin-Nagants. We brought two of our own.

    It’s funny how a 120 year old Russian has become such a successful American immigrant. Welcome to the melting pot!

  12. avatareggyknap says:

    I await the next installment — and however many more are planned thereafter — with barely controlled anticipation. I’ve been shopping for one of these myself, lately, because the historic angle of it all strikes a chord and because for some reason I love the thought of lugging one of these heavy beasts through the woods on the trail of some Bambi or other.

    Something I read recently suggested the average Soviet conscript was taught to work the safety with the butt of the gun in the crook of his elbow. I tried this for the first time the other day, and had my easiest time ever working the safety. But that gun had a few things wrong with it… and perhaps a weakness in the springs was one of them. Also, apparently the bayonet, when affixed and then jammed in the ground, makes a suitable stand for the gun when you’re sick of hefting the thing.

    Since there are a number of different mosin nagants around, I’d be interested in hearing about how to identify them and have some idea which are particularly noteworthy — but since the title already limits this to 91/30′s, perhaps that’s just wishful thinking on my part…

  13. avatarsupton says:

    A bit of humor, comparing AR, AK and MN:

  14. avatarsupton says:

    Hmm, just found out that a friend has one, and apparently another friend just got one. I am getting sorely tempted. Only drawback: I am no fan of “loud”. My friend did say to avoid the carbine–that the extra 6 inches makes a difference. True/false? But going by the pictures I’d lose the bayonet…

    • avatarRalph says:

      The M44 carbine is louder and recoils more than the 91/30 rifle. The rifle recoils and sounds like a .30-06. It kicks, but not like a mule. The carbine recoils like a .50BMG and sounds like a .308 with a flash hider. Loud! But I like the M44 anyway.

  15. avatarChad says:

    These rifles are so much fun!!! Of course, they spout flame and beat the hell out of your shoulder but who cares? The few I’ve shot were capable of much greater accuracy than I could achieve with a rest and iron sights. Just wonderful for the money.

  16. avatarFredrick says:

    This is a great article, i love my mosin, went down to big 5 the day I turned 18 and picked one up on sale, I can hit a milk jug from 250 yards with the iron sight no problem

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  17. avatarDavid Z says:

    I found your article and really enjoyed it. I plan to pick up one at the next gun show in a couple weeks…they have a couple stands that have crates of them for $99 with accessories, and deals on boatloads of ammo to go with!

  18. avatarBob Nichter says:

    Very helpful article–I found the safety. It has a safety! Thanks!

    I just got mine at gander mtn for $99. Being there to visually inspect definately helps; the first one shown to me looked like it won the war (had some rust on the bolt and bolt spacing did not look like the show models). I asked if there were more to compare with and thankfully the next one looked brand new, no cosmoline, but light oil. The barrel is stamped 1941. The slide worked smoothly and the barrel looked ok as much as my unaided and uneducated eye could tell. My biggest decision was how many should I buy? Before shooting, it looks like an unbelievable deal. The rifle is simply beautiful with wood covering the whole barrel. bayonet, 4 ammo cases, a cleaning kit and a sling. I wish my AR came with these goodies; to compare, an AR bolt alone is $99.

  19. avatarJohn EBERLE says:

    Great article and funny too ! But I must take exception to calling the Mosin rifle a Nagant . Mosin Nagant maybe . Mosins are rifles , Nagants are 1895 model Russian revolvers . The Russians call this weapon : ” Vintovka Mosina ” which means Mosin rifle . The soldiers who loved it nicknamed it ” Mosinka ” . Nagant and or Nugget is phony and insulting to this great weapon of war that happens to be celebrating its’ 120 the birthday this year !

  20. avatarDave Maloney says:

    Remember that this Rifle was “THE ENEMY AT THE GATE”!!!!!!
    The Mosin-Nagant Rifle is very reliable…..and very acurate, WHEN
    time is taken to learn this Rifle. As with any firearm, practice is an
    important function. I own a Mosin Mfg’d at the IZHEVSK Armory
    in 1943. It shoots strait and consistantly acurate, no scope. If you
    enjoy target shooting, or don’t mind the weight, hunting, you can
    have both in this Rifle.

  21. avatarShaun Pain says:

    Great article and I love the sense of humor. I just purchased one of these from J&G and read your article while cleaning out the cosmoline. Cheers and happy shooting!

  22. avatarTxBandicoot says:

    This guy is so damn sarcastic, I’m gonna make him an Honourary Aussie.

    But before I do that, I’m gonna read the remaining parts to this Tome.

    Ian (Australian-American in Mesquite, Texas)

  23. avatarKegan Terry says:

    LOVE this article. It helps tons while making me laugh at the same time. I’m glad I am not the only one who feels like a wimp while trying to use the safety!

  24. avatarSean says:

    Gun kicks like a mule on steroids, but I love shooting it, just wish I had more ammo for it on a day to day basis.

  25. avatarJames says:

    How does it kick compared to say, a Savage Nightrain 2 in .308? Or a 45-70? Or, less specific, a 12 guage (standard, or magnum, no choke or turkey)

  26. avataradam bryl says:

    I have 2!! They kick like any other large caliber centerfire rifle !! The absolute most fun you can have for $100 dollars. Ammo at $0.18 a round!! Love my nagants!!!!!

  27. avatarCowboy T says:

    The “Moist Nugget” is indeed a fun rifle and inexpensive to feed. It’s also capable of considerably greater precision, with the proper handload, than a lot of people know. And your article had me cracking up, too. Everything you say is true, *ESPECIALLY* your description of cosmoline. :-D

    Mosin-Nagant: How else can you arm five people for $500?

    - T

  28. avatarWayne says:

    My first was a Polish M44 with miss matching numbers, blue was all gone, broken stock but is one hell of a good shooter. Had no idea of what it was but cheap, Now I have 2 M44s 8 91/30 and many other different makes. Love em all……..

    • avatarJames Harrell says:

      How do you tell the difference between a 91/30 and a M44. I have 2 mosins and could use a little info if you don’t mind. Thanks…..Jim

  29. avatarthe last Marine out says:

    I have A USA made 1891 model , yes they were made by Westinghouse Electric and also Remington for Russia during WW1 , and it’s still a good shooter…. paid 39 bucks for my Westinghouse Mod. 91…

  30. avatarGoertex says:

    Great article. I keep coming back to it for info and for laughs. These guns are gorgeous.

  31. avatarAndrew says:

    I can’t seem to find part 2 I’m looking at a “moist nugget” this weekend. Asking $165 for bayonet, rifle, and ammo pouch.

    • avatarjwm says:

      Andrew, the last Mosin I bought was 129. That included all the goodies and the sling. It also included a ton of cosmoline. If it’s already degunked I’d gladly pay 165 to save all that mess and work.

      There’s a ton of instructionals on the interwebz to get the most out of your Mostly Nasty.

      • avatarAndrew says:

        According to seller it is mainly de cosmolined. I was looking for part 2 of this write up. Anyone have a link for it? I can only find pt 1 and pt 3

  32. avatarDon says:

    BudsGunShop.com has “Excellent” quality 91/30s right now for $139….

  33. avatarBern says:

    Great writing! Really enjoyed it. Just a note. A “Nagant” is a revolver. The rifles and carbines are “Mosins”

  34. Great article Ralph ! I just bought my second Mosin. I’m pretty sure my first has never been fired. You Americans are so lucky to be able to purchase military guns so cheaply ! I have found boiling water removes and softens up cosmoline very well. I just pour it over the stock. I use mineral spirits or varsol for the rest of the gun. Iraqi war veteran 8888 has some great you tube footage of Mosins. Regards.

  35. avatarDan says:

    very well written!

  36. avatarStepan Razin says:

    Enjoyed this, but in Russian these are simply called Mosin(ka) or Tryokhlineyka. Why you Anglos call it Mosin-Nagant is beyond me. Nagant is some frenchie who lost the design commission to Mosin. A Nagant is a handgun, for which Frenchie did win the Tsar’s commission.

  37. avatarWade Spruill says:

    Interesting read. I have always wanted a Mosin Nagant and have recently discovered how affordable they are. I am thinking of buying 2. 1 to restore and 1 to put on a new carbon fiber stock for actual shooting.
    Thanks for the info.

  38. avatartanstaafl says:

    OK, was an enjoyable first article, now where is follow up #2

  39. avatarSebastian says:

    Piss off a liberal and get a Mosin today!

    • avatarRobert Findley says:

      How so, Sebastian? I’m a liberal, and I love Mosins. What, did you think we all preferred Krags?

  40. avatarLarry Crss says:

    I have just ordered 4 Mosin Nagants, a round one, hex one, a sniper with the curved bolt and the Carbine. Are the stocks interchangeable between the Hex and round one?

  41. avatarAdam Lovejoy says:

    I’ve only read part 1 of this article and it was extremely informational and literally had me laughing out loud. Excellent article.

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  43. avatarRobert Dennis Crowson says:

    Every shake a mosin ? A thousand men strolling towards a machine gun can’t make noise. Thus the dog neck slings .

  44. avatarGreat Scot says:

    Pissed myself laughing! Great series.
    Brownies are just out of the oven here at Casa del Scot.

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